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Wednesday, January 14, 2009

Divide, Divide, Divide...Till We All Have Died

Gaza child casualties triple since Israeli ground invasion, UN says

First Gaza damage estimate: $1.4 billion

War in Gaza: Hopes rise for an end to conflict as death toll ...


Do we have double standards? Yes, I think we do. When it comes to our pain, we scream and shout to others. When it comes to the same thing happening to the other side, we see if this is our Friend or Foe.

To any civilized mind, the killings on both sides, Israel and Palestine, is as outrageous as the killings of the innocents in 9/11, 26/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Kashmir, and so on. We have learnt nothing in the last 2500 years of the Recorded History of Human Civilizations.

We forget that this world of ours is one large family. Someone said, "If one of mine dies in violence by my foe, it pains my heart, because I think I am human, and if someone of my foe dies, because of one of ours caused violence, even if inadvertently done, it pains me more because I think I have become the same animal, the way I thought about my foe."

Where has that moral value gone? Social Biological studies have shown that sacrifice is not an ideal virtue to be told in the story books, but more of a necessity, for the betterment of the society.

It is pity, that we define the World of Ours with such a myopic vision. It will just take an Alien Attack for us to reunite, as President Regan once said.

We, the so called civilized societies of the 22nd Century World should put our heads hanging in shame for what we do in the name of religion, civilization, race, color, creed, nation, empire and so on.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009

The Story of India

The story of India- Beginnings 1(HQ)




The story of India- Beginnings 2(HQ)




The story of India- Beginnings 3




The story of India- Beginnings 4




The story of India- Beginnings 5




The story of India- Beginnings 6






URL
http://www.pbs.org/thestoryofindia/


BACKGROUND POSTINGS


Hammurabi - The Sun-Moon King of Babylonia

Common Brahmi, Devanagri and Tocharian Alphabets

Common Brahmi And Phoenician Script

Zardaari, Zoraastrian, Khaan - Sardaari, Surya-Rashtra-yan, kShaan

Revisiting Makar Business

In the name of The Truth and Only The Truth

The Fading Ancient's Message To Us

Forbidden Archealogy - By Richard Thompson & Michael A. Cremo

In Quest of Common Ancient Civilization

Mysterious Origins Of Man - Forbidden Archeology

Where There Is Fire There Is Also Smoke

More Corruptions Of The Word Ram

Another Proof of Peru/Inca Connection With India

Jordan, Petra, and Denudata - JnaarDhan, PitRa, DhenuDatta

Atlantis Medallion And 'Aum', "Swastika' and 'Brahmi or Phoenician Letter'

AUM SIGN IN CRETE

Sumerian and Mt Meru

Phoenicians and Panis

AUM SIGN IN AMERICA

Shiva in Europe

Ruther Ford, Ruther Cross - Rudra

King Minos of Crete and Manu of Hindus

Newton Stone, Brahmi Script And Swastika




The show has usual some of western bias from the Colonial Times but it is an informative show.

Like Horse pictures are found in Indian State of Madhya Pradesh Rock Shelters of Bhimbetka caves, and it shows people horse riding. It is dated to 9000 BC and to prehistoric times.

Aryans never buried their dead (just see Troy, Atilla the Hun movies), and if the leader was important, he would be cremated and then a mausoleum created. Rarely he or she will be would be buried and this privileged was limited to people like Saints who would take Samadhis, which was also followed in Indus Valley. They were very land and conservation concious, and this is one of the reasons, they did not find too many skeletons, and the skeltons they found, I have read were supposed to be Radio Active. There is no mention of this.

On on hand the show talks about most ancient M130 Gene Pool in Kerela, about 60,000 BC, and talks about Mantra Chantings which go to pre Vedic Period, with sounds which are before Vedas and can not be related to any other languages known, but a precursor to Sanskrit, then it talks about 2000 BC Aryans, give and take 200-300 years, migrated from Indus Valley to East, and before that they migrated from Turkmenistan and brought Sanskrit, Horses and Chariots. Then it does not mention National Geographic finding that in 40,000 BC, the people from North Western Indian Sub Continent passed into Europe, and all Europeans go back to that, and all Native Americans go back to Asian Stock Pool.

Then it predates Rig Veda to 1500 BC, when Western Scholars have dated it to 2500 BC. Indian experts date it to 10,500 and even 31000 BC based on Astronomical Chartings discussed in Rick and Arth Vedas. There are mention of 28 NakShatras or Constellations and now we have 27, as 1 was lost due to the Earth's Precession Movement. (Will post one day something on this).

The dating of 10500 BC agrees with Kerela find, as well as the recent discoveries of Ice Age related Lost Civilizaitons, Atlantis, and the Land Map of Antarctica when it was not frozen, and the technology used is only to be found in the modern times in the last 50 years. This map was confirmed by the US Army. There is a recent agreement of Ice Age around 10,500 BC, and Sea Levels Rose around 19500 BC. The Myth of Raam dates to 28000 BC as per the Yuga or Ages Calculations and Traditions (plus it gels with the story of Ram Zodiac and its historical dating). One of his brothers, Laxman, has maternal ancestry going to kingdom located near Caspian Sea, (and the name 'kShyap" from Vedic times has roots to that).

It dates Mahabhaarat Epic to 1000 BC, when Western Experts have dated it to 3100 BC, and then there is no mention of Dwarika which dates to the same period of 3100 BC and is part of the Indus Valley Civilization. The Astronomical dating of Mahabhaarata Events described dates it to 3100 BC.

The Havan Kunds, Fire Sacrifice Altar Construction, shown are actually the Tandoori Pits, where you bake the Indian Rotis. This method is still wide spread even in Japan, China, Central Asia, Mongolia, and Asia Minor.

When the show mentions about William Jones, he forgets to mention that Sanskrit was more grammatically copious than the ancient Greek. So how one brother language can be richer than its sister part if they came from the same stock of parent language. And where is this parent language? There is no proof that the language existed. If Kerela Brahmins can preserve the Pre Vedic Sounds, dating 10,500 BC, then I am sure that language would have survived somewhere. The only possible explanation is that Greek (and Latin) is a child language of Sanskrit and the language of immigrants' children as they migrated west wards from India. This effect is still seen in English, where British English is richer in idiomatic usuage and expression, and American English is does not match the British English. Similarly the Hindi my mother could speak, I can not speak and match, and similarly my children speak poorer Hindi than me. The same effect can be seen in Bollywood movies of different generations.

One can argue that Sanskrit and Vedic Sanskrit (which has less differences than what is between Shakespeare English and Victorian English) were perfected from non vowel to vowel oriented, which explains why Aramaic, Coptic and Ancient Greek had no vowels based scripts but that argument fails considering it is for some reason called Deva Bhaasya or Samskritam (meaning well polished). There is another school of thought that the language came from the (Demi) Gods from other planets as did the genetic pool of man-kind (their is a missing link of millions of years of evolution between Man and Ape from the Anti Darwin School). Or this language was perfected in Atlantis, Antarctica, or North Pole long time back around 10,500 BC.

Modern Historian still judge the ancient history by the race and color, and current political and cultural divisions. The Rivers in Uzzbekistan, Surya (Sun) and Soma (Moon) Daryia, but being spelled as "Ammu" Dariya (because of confusion in "Sh" -> "h" Rule, and "a" sound, being the Guttaral Soft version and cousin to "h" sound, besides it being confused with the Mother Principle, and the word is for mother is "Amma" or "Maa"). Aryans treated Sun as the Father Principle, and the Earth as the Mother Principle. They were the Suryas. The Desert people, obviously would worship "Moon" (because who would like Sun in the hot Desert), and sometimes it would be equated with the Mother Principle, and if one follows the Odiepus Complex, the Romantic Lover's Object of Adoration and Veneration. It is for this reason, that Moon has been also Romantically adored a lot in the Islamic and Arabian (A-Ravi-ya) cultures. This also reflects that the Central Asia first was Vedic (Brahma-nic and Surya-as) and then it became Islamic (A-Brahma-an and A-Surya-as). Check out postings on Kushan Dynasty (kShana) and Tocharians. (TuShara or Xinjiang) and see the scripts and its closeness with Sanskrit. The intermixing has gone on for eons, between the North and South, and Between India and West, and between Central Asia and Mongolia and China and Tibet.

Just one generation changes the features of the people, and I have seen this among Sindhis (who migrated from Western Sindh of Pakistan post partition of India in 1947) turning from "white" complexion to "darker" complexion. My maternal grandmother looked like any present Austrian lady (I met one who looked like her), and my Dad looked like a Greek-Persian-European (as once I saw a poster of an European Pilot who just looked like him) but some of my cousins and one of my own brothers had "darker" features and more "mongolid" looks (check out the eyes of Imran Khan, the "fat" nose of Sharukh Khaan even with high ridge and sharp nose, and "rounded" nose of Hritikh Roshan and Amitaabh Bachhan (who has "darker" complextion vs the sharp nose of Vindo Khanna). So the intermixing of genes is like the Complex 3D Wave and we breaking it into 3D Fourier Components and dating them as M130, M25 and M45 pools and so on but one can not look at this them on isolated basis, and one is a mixture of all!.

Saturday, January 3, 2009

The Animal Odd Couple


Background Postings


Christian the Lion - the full story (in HQ)



People, are we smarter than animals? I do not think so, since we are so stupid and full of hate to only focus on our differences and keep fighting with each other. Terrorists, are you worse than a dog and an elephant?


Agatha Christie - a-gaatha kRiSTi

a-gaathaa - untold or unfolded story with feminine suffix "aa" and prefix "a" for negative.

kRiSTi - attracting, seducing, alluring

a-gaatha kRiSTi - untold or unfolded story that is attracting, alluring or seducing.

Looks like she and her parents had some Greek or Latin training!

Saturday, December 27, 2008

Zardaari, Zoraastrian, Khaan - Sardaari, Surya-Rashtra-yan, kShaan

Background Postings

Syria and Asyria - Brahman and Abrahm(an)

Common Brahmi, Devanagri and Tocharian Alphabets

Hammurabi - The Sun-Moon King of Babylonia


The English "Z" is actually meant to be the Palatal "Sh", and "X" is supposed to be Compound Sibiliant "kSh". There is hardly a difference in sound between "Z", "J" and sometimes "G". This is the problem when a language of 26 letters tries to cope up with the letters of 50 plus, with infinite permutations and combinations for compound letters.

Zardaari - Sardaari - Chiefton, Leader or Jamiin Daar, basically a Feudal Landlord. President of Pakistaan is that Zardaari, as he comes from the Feudal Lordship or JaminnDaari Family before Pakistaan was formed. This also is confirmed by the fact that he has a lot of land from family inheritance.

Zorastrian - Surya-RaaSTra-yan - or Su-RaShTtra-yan (Surashtra) - Good Country or Country where Suryas stay - the Sun Worshippers. Syrian and Assyrian countries were named after the same basis. The state of Gujurat was called "Su-RaaShTra", or "Surya-RaaShTrya". The uninitiated speaker can skip saying the semi vowels "y", like "r". The sea between Gujraat and Iran was either not there in the ancient times or very shallow. Have you ever wondered why people of Iraan and Gujraat share so much of their good looks?

Kushan - kShaan - kShuNNa - With the "Shindu" to "Hindu" rule, now we can see how the word "Khaan" has come. The Khans are people of Afghanistan, Uzbekistan and Tachuria, and descendents of Genghis Khan. The "kShuNNa" means "defeated", "crushed", "trampled", "pounded". It is strange the this race of people are meant to be defeated in the great Indian epic, Mahaa Bhaarat, where the Kaurava Queen, Ghandhaari was from the Kingdom of Ghandhaar, the modern city Kandhaar, and perhaps shows her father and brother had kingdoms connected with Uzbekistaan and Tachuria.

Thursday, December 18, 2008

Jordan, Petra, and Denudata - JnaarDhan, PitRa, DhenuDatta


Background Postings:

Christmas-Christian-Krishna-Masi

Similarities in Christ and Krishna Stories

Isis-Jesus-Isha-Isha-Masi

Christ-Krist-And-Krishna-Chrisna

Savior-Christ-And-Savaria-Chrishna

Dec 25 History

Gymnosophists

Romania and Armenia

Phallus, Phallic, Omphallos Business

In The Name Of The Truth And Only The Truth

English: Ram, Rome, Romania, Romance, Drama, Romulus, Remus, & Gypsy - Sanskrit: Rama, Ram, Romaka, Roman-chit & Dom

Sanskrit-iz-ed Words with Simple and Compound Siblants

Forbidden Archealogy - By Richard Thompson & Michael A. Cremo

Shiva in Europe

Ruther Ford, Ruther Cross - Rudra

AUM SIGN IN CRETE

The Fading Ancient's Message To Us

Newton Stone, Brahmi Script And Swastika

References

GnosticsNag Hamadi

Gymnosophists

India in Greece

Anacalypsis



ETYMOLOGY

Indian Jain Sect are basically "jNaaNi" Sect, pre dates 500 BC and there are talks of many Buddhas and Mahaviras - the Enlightened Ones and the Great Ones!

In Sanskrit, the sound for the compound letter "jN", where "N" is Palatal Nasal, and "j" is Palatal Soft Aspirate. So the word for 'knowing' in Sanskrit is "jNaan" which gets corrupted into Hindi as "jaan". The Instrumental Form would be "jNen", and in Hindi it would be "Jaan". So one can see what the word 'Jain meant", which was the English Folks hearing it as they heard with their cultural hearing and speaking intonations. So one can see how a Panjaab Singh becomes a Clowning Sing, and his land becomes Poonjab! The same sound is approximated sometimes by 'g", "gy" and "gNy"

As Vedas were progressing through succession of Brahmanas, Aryankas, Upnishads to Puranic stages, the Vedic Period stressed on "Fire Sacrifices" for return of "Goods from Gods For Enjoyment". This later developed into Vedanta with the philosophy of the "Brahman being Everywhere", which I also call the First Principle, Mother of All Principles and Laws.

The Jains would predate between this period who pursued the path of the quest for the Truth, and wanted Enlightenment, were called "jNen", and the Indian President, Gyaani Zail Singh, was being addressed as "gNaanii", the learned - because he had gone through some Religious Learning.

Gymnosophists and Gnostics are the same. Greeks called Indian Saints following the Jain Path, and they roamed naked as per one of their divisions. Gnostics were in Egypt who converted to Christianity but had traditions like Yoga, Ashrams, and common beliefs as Hindos. They were also followers of the Teachings of Christ but were persecuted by the Roman Church. Check the Nag Hamadi Papers.


'Petra' is corruption of the Sanskrit root "pitR(i)", where "R" is Cereberal "Ri" Vowel, and the basis for "R" as Semi Vowel. Kaaba and Kaaba-ala mean the same, the Father Principle, the Lingam Principle (and perhaps the Yoni Principle as 360 Statues were found in circle when Saint Mohammad raided the Kaaba) temple. The rock is same as lingam. So 'Petra' is basically the word for Father, and it comfirms that the temple of Petra, was from ancient times, a Father or Male Principle place of worship, and it is also confirmed by the pictures of the place having Shiva Lingam and Yoni objects, where the Lingam is clearly shown to be chopped out.

Dhenu Data - is the "Ever Yielding Mother", and it is sometimes corruped as "Daan Danda", which is the counter part of the Mother Principle Worship, and means the "Ever Giving Father.


HISTORIAL STATEMENTS

"Præter hæc tria numera non est alia magnitudo, quod tria sunt omnia, et ter undecunque, ut pythagorici dicunt; omne et omnia tribus determinata sunt."--ARISTOTLE. (Quoted by Ostrowski, page 24 of his Mathèse.)

Ostrowski has seen this clearly. "The passage of 3 in 4 corresponds to that of the Trimurti in Maïa, and as the latter opens the second ternary of the pregenesetic decade, so the figure 4 opens that of the second ternary of our genesetic decimal."-- Mathèse, p. 25.

Rosenroth intended to make a Latin translation of the Zohar and the Tiḳḳunim, and he published as preliminary studies the first two volumes of his Kabbala Denudata, sive Doctrina Hebræorum Transcendentalis et Metaphysica Atque Theologia (Sulzbach, 1677-78).


COMMENTARY

I have not researched this topic but I have read in Anacalypsis and some other places, that Aristole, Plato, Socrates all visited countries of learning, in Egypt, Babylon, Persia and India.

I hope the Extremist people from Islam, those fighting the Jihads which now-a-days the Western Civilization and the rest of the World including India calls it Terrorism --- but they woke up much late as it has gone for eons by all neo religions of the AD, especially the zealots from the Neo Christian Roman Empire and the Neo Islamic Invaders but for the later case it has gone on for almost a millennium in the subcontinent of India and Asia, and now sometimes the old peaceful Religions like the Hindus have upcoming Extremists in Orissa and Gujarat states of India, showing the same intolerance towards the minorities in India --- and esspecially the Middle Eastern and Pakistan Muslims Extremists will take a note of this article, to understand that they share a much of the same in heritage and ancestry, with that of the Indians, Pakistanis, Persians, Afganistanis, Palestinians, Egyptians, Syrians, Assyrians, Lebananese and so on.

Note Trimurti is the Indian Trinity, and is the basis of Gymnosophists, Jewish, and Christinity, and even Islam on the ideas of God - basically explaining the First Principle with Numbers and Genesis of the World, and the Word of Ideas which lead to the World. This is part of the Tetragammation. When one visits the British and Indian Museum and see the Idols of Brahama or Shiva Lingams, they would see 4 faces but later on it became 3 faces.

The four in one modeling is for Om-ni-directional being the aspect of the God Principle. This reflects the God Principle being beyond the 4 Dimensional Space and Time Universe. Modern Physics, Cosmology and Quantum Physics have finally come to the same conclusion.

Brhaman (singular Brahama) is the Super Soul and the Aatmaa (Aatman) is the Individual Soul but part and parcel of the same - like the wave in the ocean. That is the First or the Unity Principle.

The Second Principle is called the Maaya Principle or the Mother Maaya Principe, which has become Maia, which is the Illusion Principle, which pervades the 4D Space and Time Universe and its creation. This again has been confirmed by Modern Physics and Quantum Mechanics that the whole Reality is Unreal!

In other philosphies of India, like Shiva-Shakti, the Shiva Principle is the Brahman Principle and Shakti Principle is the Maaya or the Mother Principle - because Illusion is the mother of all basis of existence!

The other names are "Purusha" and "Prakritti", the Male and Female Principle, which is same as Shiva and Shakti Principle, and that basis is worshiped as Shiva Lingam and Yoni, and this basis of worship was as all over the world, from Japan, Easter Islands, Far East, India, Persia, Iraq, Egypt, Palestine, Jordan, Syria, Greece, Rome to America and Europe (some proof is already presented in the Blog but other proofs will come eventually).

Note that there are words like "Sive" in Latin, which is "Shive" or "Shiva", "Omnia" which is "Om" and has the same meaning, and Denudata is Dhenu - Datta, which is the Female Kaam Dhenu myth of the Hindu Lores, and means ever yielding and ever giving, which is the Prakriti or the Mother Natutre, and Datta is the other name of God or the Male Principle, or the Father Principle, who ultimately gives everything.

The Kabalists were in Jews in Babylonia is their second captivity when an Assyrian King Nebuchadnezzar_II defeated Jews. During the captivity, it seems they took up the customs and beliefs of the Zorastians or the Parsees or Pharsees.

But there is an older connection of Jews with Persians, Babylonians, and Indians. The key is the word Palestine which is Paal-i-staan, which means "the Place of the Lord or the Protector", and like Nepaal is "Ni-Paal", which means "undertaken to the Lord or the Protector". Most of the Babylonian Kings were having the "Paals" in the endings, like Hammurabi's father Amar-Phal (thanks to the 26-letter folks evaluating the history of 52 letter folks) or Amar-Paal.

The Brahmins of India, the Aryans, were the Solar worshipers and the Dravidians (the genetic makup is same by some research done by some Indian individuals and by American Researches, they show different ratios of M45 and M25 Homo groups of Mother's Mitochondria DNA, perhaps indicating the different waves of settlements of the Indian continent), worshiping the Moon Principle - but the there were more wide spread, which became the basis for naming the countries like Syria and Asyria, Romania (Rama-an-ia) and Armenia, (A-Rama-an-ia) and even Arabia (A-Ravi-ia).

The earliest God worshiped was Shiva, Pashupati, the Lord of the Jungles and Animals, when Man was a Forest Dweller. It was considered the Father Principle or the Male Principle. This was at the "grosser level" but at the "subtler level" it was the "Shiv" or "Sieve" Principle, that has pierced all over the space - the Omnipotent.

Aryan or Indo European Civilization, when it moved to the Farming Life, the Father Principle evolved to the Solar Worshiper and the Earth was though to be the Mother Principle. So difference of preferences came up here too, which led to the Shakti, Daamatre, Maia, Cyble Worships all over the world as well.

Any Prophet, Messenger, Messiah, or Heroic Person Deified, would be considered the Solar Principle - so the historical Ram became the Solar God. This is the basis for Romania and the Armenia (where Shiva worship was carried on) Countries. The Shiva worshippers as well as the Shakti Worshipers carried on the Animal Sacrifices as the left over Forest Dwelling rituals. This remanant is to be found in the Pashupati Temple worship in Nepal and Durga and Kaali puja of the Bengal.

Vedic People had a split between Fire worship and a more flexible mixture of Fire worship and Iconic Worship, which became the basis of the split between the Persians and the Hindoos.

The Jews came out of the Persian sect as per one theory. The other theory is that the Brahmins or the Solar Worshippers drove out the Shiva or the Lord Pashupati worshipers - before the Language was refined with the concept of vowels. This is one reasons why the Aramic (it is actually A-Raam-Ic), the language of the Jews did not have the vowels where as Vedic Sanskrit and Avesta (which A-VeS-ta - non Iconic) and even the language Asyric (A-Surya-ic).

The Desert Dwellers were Nomads, like the early Persians (before Vedic times) and later Jews, who ventured out from Babylonia to the lands of Israel, Palestine, Levant, Phoenicia. The heat of the Sun for the Desert Dwellers was not a source of inspiration to worship the Sun as a God. The Moon's coolness and beauty was the source of the Metaphor of the Pleasure - which transformed into the Feminine Principle. Later this Principle would merge with the Mother Principle, and that is why one sees the Crescent Moon in Arabic (A-Ravi-ic) and Shiva Symbols.

"Lingams" carved out of rocks at Petra, Jordan - border of Palestine, Syria, Lebanon and ancient Asyria. Before you think this is far-fetched, hold the judgement, till you see all the pictures below, and if still not convinced, read the above references.

It is the law of the Mother Nature to divide as well as unite in different dimensions. Lets rise to the upper dimensions and see the unity among divisions, and we all should rise up from pettiness and stop this ceaseless wars being waged in the name of Religion. It is not what the Prophets or the Founding Fathers wanted or envisioned. If they did, then they were not Prophets.





From Research


As you can see, they are not natural but man-made carvings.






Broken Lingam and Yoni and it is same as Denudata (Dhenu-Datta).




Same thing where the sacrifices would be offered - including Animals like the the Pashupati (Father Principle, and epithet for Shiva as Lord of Beasts) Temple in Nepa and Kaali (Mother Principle) Temples in Bengal - where the offer the same to Lingam. In India they offer Coconuts, Sweets, and Flower.



Look at the following picture and description of the Circle and the Dot.



Now look at the picture of the Yoni based Architecture, which was all over the world, from Peru to Eastern Islands, Stonehenge, and Far East Yoni GuNi.



Note in thic picture from Petra and the above Picture from Ajanta Ellora - and notice the center pillar and the central mound respectively.




So what is the connection between Shaivism and Buddhism - it is the same aspect where
Tantra, Shaivism, Kundalini Yoga is found among the monks of Tibet, Sikkim, Bhutan.

From the temple of Petra, the remains of the Cyble (is it Shibri - as C is ame as Sh, and "r" and "l" are interchangeable Semi Vowels from "R(i)" and "LR(i)" Vowels, where the usage of LR(i) has fallen off to "Ri") or Demetre (Daa MatRi). Shibri is the epitome of love and devotion towards Raam.

From Research



So you may think, this is all far fetched. Look at this picture of the temple from Petra, Jordan, and please note the Pagoda style architecture. They confirm the temple carved out of rocks, just like Ajanta and Ellora temples of India, done byBuddhist monks.




Now look at the picture of Mt. Kailasah Temple, the adobe of Shiva, at Ajanta, and note the Pagodas. At Ajanta and Ellora, they were first temples of Shiva, Krishna and later temples for Budhha.




Still not convinced? Look at the following picture of the temple with the damaged statue, actually defaced of Buddha, like done by the Taalibaans in Afgaanistan. Christian Zealots did the same kind of destruction throught the Middle East and Europe, and the suit followed by Islamic Zealots in Middle East, Egypt and India.

This is not what was envisioned by Christ and Mohammad. (If we put all the messiahs in the same room, do you think they will kill and destroy each other, let alone, hate and argue?).



The above picture of the statue should be compared with the picture below, which is from Nepal.
Note the umbrella of snake hoods in the picture below, and wonder what you would get, if you try to destroy it. Note the 4 hands and repeat the exercise, then see what you would get.

Look at some Aramaic, Arabic, and some Brahmi/Devnagri Characters in the left-top frame. The right-top frame has the the "erased" scripts painted over with some red pigment - same as the rock color but it is a poor job - and the intended scripts are of carved white shades.


From Research


The above picture from the PashuPati Temple at Nepal or some place nearby in Nepal shows the same kind of statue as above at Petra - and it confirms the "Ne-Paal" and the "Paal-i-staan" connection between Hindoos and Jews.



Now look at this picture, and save the image, and at the "red" pigmented area, try to "zoom" those pigmented areas - and see what scripts and evidence of "destruction" you see with the covered up scripts. What script does it remind you of? Maybe it is an "artifact" and only a physical inspection of the site and more high resolution pictures would confirm this "evidence"







The above image is of Lahasa, Tibet, and shows the Solar Symbols with two animals with long necks.




This is very interesting, to see the same Solar Symbols, with Two Lions/Animals (if one considers the long necks, then they look more like the animals in Lahasa, Tibet), which has been used in the Ancient Solar Dynasties. This shows that this site passed control from people to people, nations to nations, religions to religions - but was of the same principle of worship of the Almighty. This confirms the Paali-stan (Palestine) and Ne-Paal (Nepal) connection, where first they were Hindus, then Budhhists, and them some reverting to Buddhists. Somewhere before that they was some interlacing of 'jNaanii" (Jain) Sects. Even today, if one goes to the Jain temples, and see the Idols, there are overlapping with those of Hindus.

The same myth of the Yoni repeats as the Navel of the Mother Earth in Japan, Palestine, Greece, Easter Islands, France, Stonehenge, and Americas.




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The Greeks considered Delphi to be the navel of the earth, as the Jews, and even the first Christians, thought the true navel was Jerusalem ; and the ...


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The Jews consider Jerusalem to be the navel of the earth.2 The above etymon of the word does not quite meet all the circumstances, does not quite satisfy ...

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... and called the Hermaphrodite. See Gallery of Naples and of Paris. The God of the Jews is also often known by the name of Adonai '"HK Ad»ii? ...

Adinoai is same as Sanskrit Adi-naiya - Led from the Beginning - which is the other name of the Lord.


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... like the " Hindus, adored the Sun, and asserted water to be the first of " created things; nor can we doubt that Syria, Samaria, and Phenice, ..

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There was in Syria or Canaan a place called Amman, the natives of which were always at enmity with the Israelites.

"Canana" is same as Sanskrit "KaRNa" - and the Cereberal "R(i) or the next grade sound "ar" is often difficult to speak or notice when speaking fast. Like "Srivastava" becoming South Indian "Sivastava" (human migration has gone for ever) and Western people often spelling it like that. It means Sun, Gold, or the color of the Sun, Yellow-Orange-Red.


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The sacred black stone at Mecca many of my readers are acquainted with, and George the Fourth did very wisely to be crowned on the square stone, ...

During King Vikrama Ditya's time (as I have heard and read), had colonies of Brahmins and Traders sent to Arabia, and at Mecca, a Golden Saucer with his name was found. There are more evidences but basically the principle of Male/Father and Female/Mother Principle was often made into a grosser Female/Male Principle - which one would find often in primitive societies of the Nomads and Forest Dwellers which were colonized, and this could be the basis for the grosser meaning of "Phallic" idea.

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... still consider Mecca as the mother and navel, or nabhi. All these notions appear to have arisen from the worship of which we have been treating. ..



Saturday, December 13, 2008

ChristMas, Christian - ChrishtnaMasi, Chrishnan - KrishnaMasi, Krishnan


The Picture That Says All


Pictures From Stephan Knapp Site

The founding of Rome is ascribed to brothers Remus and Ramulus--which are latter-day variations of the Hindu name Rama.

Latins are Greeks' cousins, as Greeks' are Persian's Cousin, and as Persians are Indians' cousins (and one can further keep dividing everyone with regional variations but the same theme would run parallel) shows what the posting tries to explain.

Like Ram is called Dashrati, because his father's name is Dashrat, Krishna is called Vasudeva(h) because his father's name is Vasudev, Krishna's Radha is also called KrishNe, and Arjun's wife, and Krishn(a)'s Follower (Arjun's Wife) is called Draaupadii - daughter of Dru-pad - as well Krishnaa - double 'i' and 'a' make it big "A" and "I" sounds with double duration of the syllables, indicating the Feminine form. This denotes the well known rule in Sanskrit where the relations are called my grading the last, and sometimes the first syllables' vowels to next grades, and sometimes the last vowel sound is inflected to show genitive cases, symbolizing 'of' relationships.

So the word Remus is Ramus or Ramu(ah) and Ramulus is Ramulu(ah), where both are Genitive Singular cases of the word "Ram-R(i)", where "R(i)" is Cerebral "R(i)" denoting generic case like the roots of for the word Father is "PitR(i)" and the root for the Mother is "MitR(i)", and their Genitive Cases (Possesive Case showing 'of' relationship) is Mit-u-ah or Mit-u-aS and Pit-u-ah or Pit-u-aS, where 'S' is Cereberal sound but the Singular ones are "Maata" and "Pitaa". So the Singular of "RamR(i)" is "Raama", which is the one who is the Agent Noun of the Verb root "to delight in Oneself", "to relish in Oneself", one who sees "Everyone in Him, and Him in Everyone" or "Everyone in himself" and "Himself in Everyone". The "l" comes from making that Adjective first and then making it an Agent Noun, and then following the same set of rules. How else one would name Twins as Singular Genitive showing relationship with "Raam" their Father. Perhaps it shows one being more like the Father or the elder one who has claim to the throne!

Now strangely the Indian version of Names is "Lav" and "Kush" and the Italian version shows these people were brought up in a cave by some wolf, basically not their father and their mother. Since the story of Ram is so ancient, it is basically either 28000 years or 280,000, years old, and many times people are named after the historical characters, that often the fact is hard to seperate from the fiction!

If we want to be fair to both children, one would use "l" for one, and "k" for the second one, as suffix for Adjectives to the root "Raam", to become "Raam-L-R(i)" and "Raam-K-R(i)", with Geentive Cases being "Raam-L-R-u-ah(S)" or "Raam-K-Ru-ah(S)". When one considers the "ah" sound as adding "a" sound - since it is so ancient - we will get "Raam-L-R-u-a" which becomes 'Raam-L-R-v-a", and for "Raam-K-R-u-ah" is same as "Raam-K-R-u-S". Now there is some rule where "Ri" sound get modifed as "ir", "ur" sounds, and sometimes "R" is dropped. So one can see the names becoming "Raam-L-av" and "Raam-k-uS", where "S' is a Labial Sibiliant, and in short it would become "Lav", and "KuS"! Some folks would laugh ath ana gramming business, but ones who know the Sanskrit Euphonics rules, and know how some sounds evolved, would know that this is not that far fetched, considering the story to be so ancient!!


This mosaic captioned "A Pastoral Scene" is of the 2nd century A.D. and is on display at the museum in Corinth, 60 Km. from Athens (Greece). Obviously this is Lord Krishna the Hindu incarnation in his boyhood. The bare body, the horizontal flute, the cross-legged stance, standing under a tree with a few cows grazing around is exactly how Krishna is depicted in Hindu pictures. This is proof that in ancient Hindu Europe, Krishna and Rama as much as the Shiva Linga were worshiped as they are still worshiped by the Hindus in Hindusthan.

Background Postings:


Similarities in Christ and Krishna Stories

Isis-Jesus-Isha-Isha-Masi

Christ-Krist-And-Krishna-Chrisna

Savior-Christ-And-Savaria-Chrishna

Dec 25 History

Gymnosophists

Romania and Armenia

Phallus, Phallic, Omphallos Business

In The Name Of The Truth And Only The Truth

English: Ram, Rome, Romania, Romance, Drama, Romulus, Remus, & Gypsy - Sanskrit: Rama, Ram, Romaka, Roman-chit & Dom

Sanskrit-iz-ed Words with Simple and Compound Siblants

Forbidden Archealogy - By Richard Thompson & Michael A. Cremo

Shiva in Europe

Ruther Ford, Ruther Cross - Rudra

AUM SIGN IN CRETE

The Fading Ancient's Message To Us

Newton Stone, Brahmi Script And Swastika

References

GnosticsNag Hamadi

Gymnosophists

India in Greece

Anacalypsis

Following pages in the book have references to Black Christ and Christna.

Anacalypsis Page 159-160


Anacalypsis Page 167


Anacalypsis Page 167


Anacalypsis Page 173


Anacalypsis Page 181


Anacalypsis Page 313


Anacalypsis Page 175


Anacalypsis Page 305


Anacalypsis Page 306


Anacalypsis Page 425


Dec 22 or 23 is the Coldest and Darkest Day of for the people of above the Equator, and the Sun was always equated with the Father Principle, or the Male Principle, and the Hindu Gods Ram and Krishna were considered the incarnation of the Sun, as were in other parts of the word, that went by the names Hercules, Horus, Mitra, Chorus, etc. So on the day of the Winter Solstice in December, the Sun starts is northbound journey, promising rejuvenation and rebirth of life, and of Light and Peace, and of Love and Happiness.

Even today, the educated ones from different countries, with different accents and hearing culturally intoned and trained sub-consciously, would spell the same sounds differently. One does not have to go that far but look at the spelling differences between the US English and the UK English!

The letters "K", "Q", "Ch", and "C" are often used for the same sound associated with the words mentioned here.

Many Britishers would spell Indian Krishna as Christna. The Indian Krishnan can be easily spelled as Christian by folks, as they skip registering some subtle sounds, which is found true. Just see how 50 plus letters of Sanskrit got approximated with less and less letters in Greek, Latin and English!

Now scholars are questioning the stories woven by the early Roman Church and the politics behind the mixing of the State and the Religion, which has brought us the terrors in the name of religion. Check Hamadi Papers, and read on Gnostics and Gymnospophists which are believed to be the followers of Budhism/Jainists. Some have even gone to the extent of questioning Historical Christ, and have said that the Roman Church has wowen stories besides him to push for its agenda, which was nothing to do with Religion or Spiritualism, but a tool to expand the Roman Empire.

One thing we can be sure that there was a person called Christ, like the way we have so many Krishnans, Ramans and Mohammads, named after some historical figure! And also sure this person was a great Saint, Spiritualist, Healer, Leader and what not, who did not forsee that in his name the atrocities would be carried on in the Europe, Americas, Australia, New Zealand, etc. against the natives of the land.


In Sanskrit, the full-moon anniversary is called "Chandraa-Maasi", which is the anniversary of the moon, or the birth of the full moon. So the anniversary of Krishna or Christna would be spelled as ChristNa-Maasi, and people having difficulty pronouncing the Cerebral 'N' associated with the word would skip the sound - like the fast Indian Speakers do not stress the last syllables and whereas Americans have the habit of doing so, and hence when an Indian Speaker speaks to an American Speaker, they have difficulty following them. One example is "Running" becomes "Runni'" where the sound "ing" is skipped but it is the Sanskrit Guttaral "Ng" sound and approximated with the letters "ing", and one can confirm this with reading some Sanskrit book with translation in English and use of the English Transliteration, with sound guides. So Isha Masi would mean the Reicarnation of God or the Lord which we all desire very much. Isha means to desire, and the noun would also be Isha, and Masi hear would mean the Reincarnation, the Rebirth.

It is a well known fact that that December 25 was the festival of the Pagans - a derogatory word used to hint at the statue and image worshipers by the Roman Church, and also the urban people in Rome were first to convert, and the rural people showed stubbornness to convert and were often thought to be "backward" and "unsophisticated". Is it not true that the Rural people are more loyal to their ancestor's Religion and its way of living, and one can see this proof in the North Western Pakistan, where the illiterates who do not know their own history, and only have a collective conscious memory of recent times from the Mogul Empire, refuse to go with the flow of the modern times, or even reconcile to the fact that their ancestors were also same as Hindus? This is why the correct Education is important as well as true imparting of History lessons need to be imparted - which rises beyond Politics, Nationality, Race and Religion, as the mixing of these things is always on the flux of change!

When the Christians were banned by the pre 300 AD Roman State, and being persecuted, the secret societies of the early Christians would take this occasion when the so called "Pagans" worshiping their Pagan God's Birthday, they would celebrate the day for their Lord. Later Roman Church, post 300 AD made this as a Christmas Day!!

Now there is mention in Anacalypsis that the site of Roman Churches show Black Christ, and some places, the statue of the Christ is believed to be painted with white! Another interesting fact is that like Baby Krishna is depicted sitting on the lap of his mother, the same way Baby Christ is shown sitting on the lap of his mother!


Vaishavnism - the sign of 'V' who are followers of Vishnu, Raam, and Krishna's worshipping.
These pictures tell the same story.



An Arab woman wearing the Hindu vermilion mark on her forehead in ancient times when the world practiced Hinduism. (Published in the Bible Dictionary (appended to the Holy Bible edited by the American Review Committee) and also in "Long Missing Links" by Aiyangar. [ Long missing links, or, The Marvellous Discoveries about the Aryans, Jesus Christ and Allah" by Vaduvur K Duraiswami Ayyangar, Publisher: Oriental Home University, 1931])




A Roman superior wearing the Hindu dhoti, chappals (sandals) and Hindu marks on his neck and forehead--reminding one of the times when Europe practiced Hinduism. (Published in "History of Rome" page 300 by Smith and "Long Missing Links" by Aiyangar.)




The Hindu architect of the pyramids looking at an unfolded architectural scroll. He is wearing Hindu marks on his body. This should underline the need to reconstruct the worldwide sway of Hinduism in ancient times currently wiped out of all history. (Published in Egyptian Myth and Legends page 368 and also in "Long Missing Links" by Aiyangar.)



Hindu administrations, the Sanskrit language, Hindu culture and the Hindu medical system--Ayurved, held sway throughout the ancient world. Monarchs then used to attend court bare-bodied with sacred ash and colour marks on their bodies. This is an Hindu Egyptian monarch of those times. [The 'V' mark is called tilok, and is shown being worn by this Egyptian in the same style that it is still worn by Vaishnavas today in India, on the forehead, arms, neck, chest and belly, representing that one is a worshiper of Lord Krishna or Vishnu.] (Published on page 38 of the Bible Dictionary {appended to the Holy Bible edited by the American Review Committee} and on page 185 of "Long Missing Links" by Aiyangar.)

Roman consul wearing the Hindu forehead mark indicating that in ancient times Romans were Hindus. Roman emperors also sported the title 'Dev' as the termination of their names in the Hindu royal style. [The 'V' mark is called tilok, and is worn on the forehead to represent that one is a Vaishnava, a worshiper of Lord Krishna or Vishnu.] (Published in "History of Rome" page 237 by Smith and in "Long Missing Links" by Aiyangar.)


Bulls were worshiped in ancient Hindu Egypt as they are still worshiped in Hindu India. The earliest explorers of Europe and Africa were Hindus. The river 'Nile' bears the Sanskrit name indicating her blue waters. (Published in "Egyptian Myth and Legend" page 70 and "Long Missing Links" page 233.)

When Indian Soldiers returned from Egypt, after the World War I, they reported seeing Krishna's statues and his temples all over the country sites in Northern Africa. This was reported in Asiatic Researches. Then there was an intense debate about similarities between Christ and Krishna and if the Hindu's have copied from the Christians' the Krishna story - but only saved by the statues of Krishna in Elephanta and Ajanta caves, and the Greek Empire's erected Pillars in India and Afghanistan which mentioned the Historical Krishna, both predating Christian History.

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